Windows 8 midi latency

I would think the Snow Leopard would give it away! Pitto Sorry, didn't see that for some reason :P — Rei Miyasaka. Also it sounds as if you are talking about PCM sound. This question is about MIDI. Show 1 more comment. We use M-Audio for most of our stuff that goes through a PC, as we can guarantee very low latency all the bottleneck pieces are moved off onto hardware to ensure this I'm not affiliated with M-Audio, but their kit works well for us as we are heavily dependent on computers in our rhythm section.

Kaelin Colclasure Kaelin Colclasure 4 4 bronze badges. Abhishek Abhishek 1. Sign up or log in Sign up using Google. Sign up using Facebook. Sign up using Email and Password. Post as a guest Name. Email Required, but never shown. Featured on Meta. New post summary designs on greatest hits now, everywhere else eventually. Updating close reasons to fit the new format. Related 2. The cheapest audio interface option I have explored is the Behringer UCA , which is the only specific interface I will discuss here.

The device also allows usage of multiple driver types simultaneously although only one program can be using the ASIO driver at any given time. The sound quality is marginal and, when the device is under rather a lot of strain, it is prone to glitches in the audio: clicks, pauses, etc.

Nevertheless, it is a great portable and incredibly cheap solution. This is extremely disappointing as the Behringer drivers worked far better. Sadly, I am not aware of any other devices in this price range that are good substitutes for the UCA series with the original Behringer drivers. However, they are not guaranteed to work.

Examples of strange behavior include showing up in device manager but refusing to send messages through or sending bad data even though the throughput lights blink as they should. If you have Windows 8 or 8. This section provides examples of specific setup problems and how to solve them with the tools described so far. This is common when developing interactive MIDI applications on the go with a laptop. Although another good solution is to carry a small keyboard like a Korg nanoKey2 or a QuNexus, they are not the only option.

From the list of software earlier in this document, you will need the following:. Then, take input from the same virtual port in the application requiring MIDI input. I have been in this position many times. And then, off you go with laggy kazoo fun. Not all old software can be configured to do otherwise unfortunately. However, those programs that can usually have an option somewhere for setting the MIDI output device.

Set the synthesizer to take input from the same MIDI port. NOTE: the port should have messages flowing through it in one direction only.

In other words, one program should talk while the other listens. Again, bi-directional communication between the programs would require twice as many ports to avoid feedback. First, if you are attempting to minimize the latency of the Windows default synth, it is a lost cause.

Your best bet is to use a different synthesizer and follow the instructions in the previous subsection. I usually recommend starting with a value of 10 and testing playback with at least some chords in it to hear some MIDI polyphony. Some systems can go as low as ms latency with this synth, although this is somewhat rare and requires a pretty beefy machine often a desktop tower and good audio hardware.

Many lesser machines, however, will still work with ms. On laptops in particular, the degree to which you can reel in the latency can be affected by power settings. High performance modes can typically function with lower latencies without audio glitching than battery saving modes are capable of. If you are using ASIO drivers, you may need to adjust the buffer size to optimize the performance of the device on your system.

The larger the buffer, the worse the latency will be, but the less likely you will be to have audio quality problems clicks, audio dropouts, etc. High-end audio devices meant for serious music development usually can have the buffer size set quite small. How powerful a PC the audio device is on also impacts this process. I own a brand new PC Win 8.

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Thanks for your help. I realize this is a horrendously late response to your post and do apologize for that. Backwards compatibility is a much complained about topic in music, and the options can be pretty limited when you have a really old device.

Similarly to what you have seen, some parts of the device worked but others were unresponsive no matter what I tried, and I ended up having to just buy a new piece of hardware. Can I download one? Nest step would be playing along with the midi and recording the result. Would the same thing work for that? Sorry to be using you for tech support. I thought your classical woodwind trio generated from number 6 was scarily real. Does it ever end? I mean Can you give the program the means to create a start and a finish?

There are download links for a couple different virtual MIDI ports under section 4. Adding support for more intelligent generation of time-sensitive musical events endings, bridges, etc. Drop down to Windows 7? Surely someone has designed a midi interface that runs on windows 8.

The only thing it has dropped is support for setting a default output device at the operating system level. Some very basic MIDI players have this problem as do some very old pieces of software. Having been brought to realise that this was not a trivial problem, I thought to try this with a virtual Windows 7 computer running on VMware Workstation 12 Player, which I have had to set up for other purposes.

This includes the scheduling and execution of a DPC routine, the signaling of an event and the waking up of a usermode thread from an idle wait state in response to that event. The process of resolving the hard pagefault requires reading in the memory from disk while the process is interrupted and blocked from execution.

NOTE: some processes were hit by hard pagefaults. If these were programs producing audio, they are likely to interrupt the audio stream resulting in dropouts, clicks and pops. Check the Processes tab to see which programs were hit. Process with highest pagefault count: msmpeng. This thread is locked. You can follow the question or vote as helpful, but you cannot reply to this thread. I have the same question Report abuse. Details required :.

Cancel Submit. Previous Next. Vijay B. Hi Guga, According to the above provided description, the issue seems to be with the power management. Method 1: I would suggest you to run power troubleshooter and see if that helps. Method 2: I would suggest you to create new power plan and see if that helps.

Power plans: Frequently asked questions Can I create a power plan? Modifications of the settings are at your own risk.

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How satisfied are you with this reply? Thanks for your feedback, it helps us improve the site. In reply to Vijay B's post on September 19, Hi Vijei B, thanks for the reply. The answer is nearly always to tick the relevant 'Use system timestamp' option, but you can't assume that this is always the best setting — it depends both on your PC's motherboard and the make and model of your MIDI interface or your audio interface, if that provides the MIDI ports.

It's quite possible for Cubase to work really well until you change your interface, whereupon your MIDI timing suddenly goes completely screwy. Because the two PC clocks may gradually drift apart, if you have unsuitable settings you may find that Cubase starts off with very good MIDI timing, but gets gradually worse the longer it's running.

During really long sessions, notes being recorded may eventually appear in the correct position in a part initially and then suddenly jump forwards or backwards in time. The longer your PC is powered up, the bigger these jumps become, but if you close down Cubase and then re-launch it immediately, the problem will disappear.

Such long-term drifts mean that many users rarely notice any problem until they are deep into a session, and then they panic, try the system timestamp option, and find it cures their immediate problem. However, since they don't know why this works and everything seems to be hunky dory the next time they launch Cubase, they are reluctant to leave the timestamp option ticked permanently. I suffered recently from the exact problem I've just explained.

As most people would, I just switched back to the MKC to finish my work, but the next day I took some time to investigate further, only to find that the UF8 recorded notes perfectly. Then, when I attempted to use it to record some MIDI controller data, it once again all ended up at the beginning of the part.

So I ticked the 'Use system timestamp' option and my timing problems immediately disappeared. If you want to find out once and for all which combination of settings provides the tightest timing for your particular motherboard timer and MIDI interface, you should ideally test all four possible combinations of tick-box and MIDI driver Windows MIDI driver with and without system timestamp, and real or emulated DirectMusic driver with and without system timestamp.

Because even emulated DirectMusic drivers may benefit from the increased timing resolution of the QPC clock, you may, in some cases, end up with better timing using these than using real Windows MIDI drivers. To test the timing of any sequencer you just need to create a few bars filled with hand-drawn 16th notes, using the pencil tool to provide a regular signal , and then route this to a MIDI output that you can connect back to the MIDI input of another track, so you can capture the combined latency and jitter of these MIDI ports.

The test itself is easy, and is exactly the same for any sequencer. Start by creating a song running at bpm, and make sure Auto Quantise is disabled; create a MIDI part lasting several bars; and then use the pencil tool to fill it with continuous 16th notes. Now you can zoom in on both tracks simultaneously, to see how far apart individual notes are on each. On the recorded track, the note starting positions may be consistently earlier or later than those of the hand-drawn notes latency , but start-position timing is also likely to vary a little between notes jitter.